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Hi there!

This is Dan Linford. I came across your post discussing some of my work. I thought I'd clear up some details.

I think you've made some mistakes when trying to think about my Modal Condition. In particular, you've confused my comments about non-metric intervals with my comments about timeless models. A non-metric temporal interval is still a temporal interval. So, I never claimed that transitioning from a non-metric interval to a metric interval would involve the beginning of time. It would only involve the beginning of metric time. Moreover, at one point, you wrote that non-metric intervals are inconsistent with our experience of the direction of time. That's not true. A non-metric interval of time can still have a past-to-future direction.

The point about non-metric intervals is that if the past includes a non-metric interval, then there is no fact about how long the past was. There wouldn't even be a fact about whether the past is finitely long or infinitely long. Hence, any argument that the past is not infinite wouldn't justify the conclusion that the past is finite. One must also rule out the possibility of a non-metric interval, or else show that the universe has a topological beginning.

In any case, you are right that I've made the claim that, in some models in cutting edge theoretical physics and philosophy of physics, there are various timeless entities. These wouldn't be non-metricated intervals -- instead, they'd be structures that somehow underlie spacetime. But I don't need those admittedly speculative models for my argument to work. William Lane Craig thinks that past time is finite and that God is in time. Since past time is finite, God has only been in time for a finite period. Hence, God has a finite past. Craig also claims that God is beginningless. So, Craig, himself, should say that having a finite past does not suffice for having a beginning, since some beginningless entities (like God) have a finite past. One needs to offer an extra condition that distinguishes entities with a finite past, but no beginning, from entities with a finite past, but also a beginning. I don't agree with Craig's proposals for such a condition and try to offer my own (the Modal Condition). Regardless of what the correct condition is, we also need a reason to think that, given the condition, the universe not only has a finite past but also a beginning. As far as I know, there are few attempts to show anything like that and certainly none that are successful.

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